"When Catholic priests got away with pedophilia, Predators all over the world watched and became enabled, and that includes Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell."
The same pattern of abuse/ crime from one victim to another for both pedophile Catholic priests and Jeffrey Epstein, is another similarity I've already seen as I start this project. That repeated pattern was the theme of the pedophile priest True crime series that I tried to get produced in 2008, showing that in one archdiocese after another the pattern of crimes was the same; and no one In Hollywood wanted to even hear the word pedophile, not that long ago; 18 years ago no one would listen to my pitches to produce a series about the pedophile priests;
When I ordered Virginia's book last week, I did not realize how much the story of the Epstein victims ties in with the stories of the pedophile priest victims that I covered for 20 years Including on message boards for survivors only.
When Catholic priests got away with pedophilia, Predators all over the world saw that, and that includes Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell. I was saying that 20 years ago and have continued to say that ever since;
By not going after the priests the way a legitimate society would, we opened the door for Jeffrey Epstein and who knows what other sex crimes against children that are going on now everywhere.
The Catholic Church from the Vatican down is responsible for Epstein and so much more, and it won't stop until the Catholic Church from the Vatican down takes accountability and starts to do penance for its crimes.
Wow I had no idea I was going to end up saying that when I started writing this.Wow I had no idea I was going to end up saying that when I started writing this.
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Wednesday, February 10, 2021
Bishop Steinbock testimony TRANSCRIPT Santillan vs Bishop of Fresno, rerunning from 2010, CofA Coverage part 1
(CofA Blog coverage of Santillan vs Bishop of Fresno coverage, rerunning from 2010 bk it needs revisiting, I think, part 1, UPDATING from 2010 continued here). Q Bishop, when did you first realize or learn that when an adult lays his hands on the genitals of a child and manipulates the genitals of a child and places them on the body of a child for sexual purposes, it was a crime? When did you first realize that? A You know, it's really hard for me to say. I think society-
Q No, you. A Me? Q You. A I think I thought, along with society, for so many years it was- Q Bishop, I'm going to ask you to focus on the question. (From Santillan v. Bishop of Fresno transcript of March 18, 2009, testimony of Bishop John Steinbock, questioned by Jeff Anderson, copy and pasted in this post in full below.) 
Here is the transcript, verbatim, with only hard returns and page and line numbers removed for easier reading, of the first half of Bishop John Steinbock’s testimony, March 18, 2009. BISHOP JOHN STEINBOCK, called as a witness by and on behalf of the Plaintiffs, having been first duly sworn, testified as follows pursuant to Evidence Code Section 776: THE COURT: Have a seat up here, please. And would you state your full name and spell your last name, please. THE WITNESS: John Steinbock, S-T-E-I-N-B-O-C-K. THE COURT: All right. Will you be examining Bishop Steinbock? MR. ANDERSON: I will, Your Honor. Thank you. BY MR. ANDERSON: Q Bishop, good morning. A Good morning. Q How long have you been Bishop of the Diocese? A I came in November of 1992. Q How long have you been a priest? A Forty-six years in another two months. Q And it is correct to say that at all times while a priest, you and every other priest operate under a rule called the promise of obedience to your superior? A Yes. Q And that is a rule of the church. You must obey your superior in all matters of life and faith; correct? A No. Q Well, you must obey the superior in what matters? A Okay. There's a difference between a diocesan priest and a religious priest. Q Okay. Well- A Now- Q Go ahead. I'm sorry. 
A religious priest takes a vow of obedience, and he is meant always to be obedient to his superior no matter what. The diocesan priest, when he takes the promise, not the vow, the promise of obedience, it's mainly in matters of ministry, where he is assigned, things that are related to his ministry as priest. It's not like a religious superior. Q Got it. And you are a diocesan priest? A Yes. Q And a Bishop and the shepherd of this Diocese currently; correct? A Yes. Q And this promise of obedience that runs from a priest to his Bishop, every priest of this Diocese is required to obey their promise of their Bishop of obedience; correct? A In matters of ministry. Q And that promise of obedience is actually first made at the diaconate before ordination; correct? A Yes. Q And then at ordination, when the Bishop allows you and another priest like you to be ordained, it is repeated; correct? A Yes. Q And it continues to that Bishop and all the Bishops that follow him; correct? 0 A Yes. Q And that promise of obedience continues as long as that priest is in the priesthood; correct? A Yes. ********************************* You say he "hinted," that is Monsignor Herdegen? A Yes. Q Hinted to you? A That he was indiscreet with two boys. He did not admit the abuse. Q Well, you use the word here "abuse," don't you? A Well, I think it would be- I have no idea ********************************** Q And there is a mechanism for removal of that priest from the priesthood; correct? A For a very grave cause. Q Yes. And that- that mechanism for removal of that priest from the priesthood is called laicization, is it not? A Laicization. Q Yes. And the Bishop can laicize or remove that priest from the priesthood and petition Rome for that, in other words? A The Bishop cannot laicize him. The Bishop can petition Rome for laicization. Q That's what I meant to say. Thank you. The Bishop can petition the Holy Father, the Vatican, to remove the priest from the clerical state; correct? A Yes. Q The priest also can petition Rome to be removed from the clerical state; correct? A Yes. Q Okay. Monsignor Herdegen is still a priest of your Diocese, this Diocese; correct? A Yes, but he does not have faculties to exercise his ministry. Q And it's correct, is it not, Bishop, that at no time have you as his Bishop attempted to petition Rome for the removal of him from the holy state of the priesthood? A There would be no reason for me to do that. Q Isn't the sexual abuse of minors a reason to remove him from the holy state of the priesthood? A It would be not to allow him to exercise his ministry as priest. You do not necessarily go through a – a form of Laicization. Q Why not, Bishop? Why not? MS. McGUIRE: Objection. Argumentative. THE COURT: Overruled. THE WITNESS: Well, first of all, you won't hear anything from Rome for about three or four years, because they process very slow over there. You know, to laicize a priest, you have to - continue reading
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