A growing collaboration begins here:
(It started
when I was having a manic Facebook episode, and as Trump left on his first overseas trip as "President," I posted: )
Kay Ebeling WHY are we letting Trump
leave the country while he is Under Investigation? @alfranken @RepAdamSchiff
@SMShow.
(A woman in Texas who I
had friended weeks earlier without really knowing who she was piped right in: )
Jaye Ramsey
Sutter
Who is going to stop him? There is literally no one
to stop him. Nothing like this was ever anticipated.
(I responded:)
Kay Ebeling Law
Enforcement and a few good republicans
(What happened after that is the growth of a friendship perhaps a
collaboration with my new friend in Texas, that went like this:)
 |
| Jaye Ramsey Sutter |
Kay Ebeling Jaye Ramsey
Sutter well maybe this will change that. It seems if he breaks a law, he is still a
citizen, so can be arrested
Jaye Ramsey
Sutter No. It does not work like that. It cannot be changed. If
you will recall Nixon was never arrested.
Kay Ebeling
NATO?
Jaye Ramsey
Sutter We are NATO. They do not have any authority to arrest
the United States' President
Kay Ebeling this
is astounding. I guess no one ever thought a President would be a thug like
this.
Kay Ebeling
Russia figured out there is this huge hole, I mean Trump probably could not
pass a regular background check to get a federal job and he's president. We
never realized someone so dishonest could get into the presidency so there is
nothing in place to deal with it? Is that it?
Jaye Ramsey
Sutter Nixon? Andrew Johnson? Warren Harding? Yes.
Impeachment.
Kay Ebeling
I can name Some Good things even Nixon did..
Jaye Ramsey Sutter Only
because the public fueled by JFK and ZlBJ paved the road for them. Nixon bombed
2 million innocent people. Lied about Viet Nam Laos and Cambodia. He was an
unindicted co conspirator. He abused power and was a tax evader. A cheap petty
crook. The Plumbers plotted to murder journalists.
*
I am a
political science professor with a law degree. It does not work like that.
*
(Feeling a bit intimidated by this woman who
I did not know being so informed when I'm so used to being the smartest person
in the room, I posted a different post: )
Forget impeachment, arrest him.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter It cannot be done. There is no police force with
the authority. The FBI can't. It is a separation of powers thing. When and if
he enters private life he can be arrested then but not until. Bummer.
Kay
Ebeling I think someone will figure something out and it will be
"amazing" genuinely amazing ... call me a flower child, after all i
once was...
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter I am a political science professor with a law
degree. It does not work like that. He is not a private citizen. He is the
president and no one can touch him. Congress has no police force. The courts
cannot issue a warrant because it is long established there is no authority.
Not one news person or politician has stated it is possible. He is going to
leave the country on Friday. Nothing can stop that.
*
Kay
Ebeling Well then it looks like Putin found a gaping hole
in our system to make this happen.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Impeachment is the remedy. The threat of it
took Nixon down. That is the rule of law. Not a dictatorship. Nixon could have been arrested after he
resigned.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Nixon feared what came with impeachment. Clinton
did not quit because he did not commit an impeachable offense. We are a
terrifically strong nation with great traditions laws and institutions. We will
get through this. It takes time.
Kay
Ebeling We are not prepared to counter this then. Trump is moving too fast.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Yes we are. Impeachment.
Kay
Ebeling I think we need outside help.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter There is none. And a nation that is a
constitutional democracy allows the process to work. We have an excellent
constitution. Let it work.
Kay
Ebeling Maybe just keep feeding Trump ice cream and cake then
sending him out to play golf in the heat...
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Maybe stack up the charges, keep the press--the
Fourth Estate--working and the elections in 2018 to work and we get
impeachment.
Kay
Ebeling I'm concerned about damage he can do between now and
2018 election
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Me too. I worry about the nuclear possibility.
Kay Ebeling We are not prepared to counter this
then.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Yes we are. Impeachment. We are a terrifically
strong nation with great traditions laws and institutions. We will get through
this. It takes time.
*
(A Few Minutes
Later, I got another nudge and posted this on Facebook:)
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Did Trump even
get a basic classified security clearance before taking office? Is the
President the one job in Fed Govt a person can get without a background check?
Tell me they did just that much research beforehand, please.
okay I just googled it
and Yup, the President Does Not get a security clearance, he just cons people
into voting for him and Walks into the job with no background checks.
Apparently Putin Googled that too a few years back... gotta go transcribe for
work now. good morning.
how could we be so
stupid?
how could we be
so stupid?
(And within
seconds I heard from Jaye in Texas)
Jaye Ramsey Sutter How did we elect Nixon,
Reagan, not abolish the Electoral College after W. we are stupid. One third of
the nation is insane at any moment.
(Another friend in WV chimed in)
Jo Miller 1/3 crazy, 1/3 being made crazy,
1/3 indifferent.
Kay Ebeling It just seems like when I
was a little girl in the 1950s people were not dumb like this. The Public,
almost everyone read a daily newspaper and had a job. It took decades to make
americans this stupid, and lots of things caused it, but for geezers like me,
this is astounding.
Jaye Ramsey Sutter McCarthyism
continued through the 60s in a different form. Hoover ran the FBI. Blacklisting.
Nixon as VP Checkers speech. No interracial marriage. Abortion was not uttered.
Segregation. People were just as stupid. Operation Mockingbird. Homosexuality
was a crime. Grounds for marriage were necessary to prove. We were just as
stupid.
Kay Ebeling Still today’s news is like
comparing Edward R. Murrow to Joe Scarborough. We have sunk that low
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Putin bought Trump 10 years ago as an asset agent and Trump has
been put to useful work.
*
(The dialogue grows)
Did Trump even get a basic classified security clearance before
taking office? Is the President the one job in Fed Govt a person can get
without a background check? Tell me they did just that much research
beforehand, please.
Jaye Ramsey Sutter No. He did not get a
background check. Not a requirement for the office.
Kay Ebeling Which is something that I hope
we change after this.
Jaye Ramsey Sutter We won't. No Electoral
College change after Gore. No one is going to amend the constitution over this.
Kay Ebeling That's insane. you can't be a
tour guide at the NASA museum there in Houston without a clearance.
Jaye Ramsey Sutter Nope. 35. Natural
born citizen. Resident for 14 years. That is it. No college degree. No law degree. Get elected
in the EC. That is it.
Kay Ebeling Well then let's let the spies
into the NASA museum, WTF. I think this is the hole in our system that Putin
exploited. Astounding
Jaye Ramsey Sutter Not so much a hole as
Putin bought Trump 10 years ago as an asset agent and Trump has been put to
useful work. This constitution was fine until Trump the criminal while came
along.
Kay Ebeling Jaye Ramsey Sutter That's what I'm saying. We did not prepare
for a thug this bad getting elected President.
Jaye Ramsey Sutter The press never
investigated Trump.
*
(Okay, I have to admit, when I googled Jaye’s name and realized
she really is a political science professor with a law degree, I felt a bit
intimidated. Tentatively I posed to her
this question: )
*
When
Nixon resigned, wasn't it after a couple concerned republicans went and spoke
to him privately and convinced him to do it? Jaye
Ramsey Sutter
Jaye Ramsey Sutter Yes.
Including Barry Goldwater. Because the House Committee had voted to recommend
to the full House impeachment. Nixon knew that meant a trial in the Senate and
no government. Goldwater said to Nixon he would have ten votes to 90 in Nixon's
favor. Nixon resigned.
Trump would not do this. He
believes his own nonsense. Clinton was asked by Democrats to quit and he
refused because he was not guilty of an impeachable offense. Bribery, treason,
other high crimes and misdemeanors Trump is textbook Federalist Paper's example
of why this clause is in the Constitution
*
Saudis say same things about US and Obama etc that you hear on Fox News
*
(A few days later, my post on
Facebook went up when Jaye was also awake and this resulted: )
Just
watched man on street interviews in Arabia about Trump. Somehow Saudis are
saying same things about US and Obama etc that you hear on Fox News. Hmm.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Saudis hate Obama.
Kay
Ebeling yep and in English the Saudi sound bites are anti-Obama
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Ffs.
Kay
Ebeling My theory since 2013 is that Saudis started Fox News in
1995
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter No doubt their money helped.
Kay
Ebeling as years progress there is more and more evidence of it.
My theory is that in 1995 the Fox BOUGHT their position on cable news with
Saudi money and it has been all downhill since then
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter I am exhausted
*
As Trump’s
expedition to Saudi Arabia to turn the USA into an emirate continued, Jaye
posted:
Jaye Ramsey Sutter It is just bullshit.
Arms deals? They don't require these displays. Ugly propagandizing
aggrandizement.
If a novel was
written about this time would we find it credible? To what will historians and
political scientists attribute this crisis in our republic? How are we going to
get out of this? Republicans are not concerned. Either they care more about a
tax plan, their religious fanatical base-- which votes more than moderate
liberals or conservatives--or they are also bribed by Russians
If everyone doesn't
vote for Democrats in legislatures and Congress in 2018 we are going to be
governed by Putin Fascists like Trump. (Please don't call him a populist.).
*
(But I'm
still distracted with my Fox News theory)
This attack started in 1995 when a huge amount of cash was
paid to put Fox News on cable lineups all over USA (probably saudi cash washed
through rupert). Thus began the attack on USA using Misinformation. It worked
so well they expanded online to websites, bought up almost all the radio
stations so entire geographic regions heard nothing but misinformation. They
used agents to find the most vulnerable among the rich and found D Trump-
(enter Melania)- made sure he was Completely Entrenched in Misinformation so he
then could rally the rest of the... zombies to vote for him even though he was
lying right and left. Now he's President and the coup set it up so We Can't
Stop him- he lined up The Richest People in USA behind him- the coup knows how
money runs everything here.
It's greed and ignorance that is destroying us now from within. I'm glad I have a staircase hiding my window as well, here where I'm hiding under the big tree.
It's greed and ignorance that is destroying us now from within. I'm glad I have a staircase hiding my window as well, here where I'm hiding under the big tree.
Comments
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter This is the greatest espionage case of all time.
Trump wanted to be the wealthiest i.e. Most powerful man and Putin is the man/
friend/ father that Trump thinks accepts him. Trump was abandoned by his
parents and therefore he won't give up Putin. It is craven. But we don't know
the half. The more we learn the worst is yet to come.
What motivates spies
is the politics of retribution and acceptance. They resent. It is their
existential essence .
Kay
Ebeling yup
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter We are in a Cuban Missile Crisis Moment.
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We are in a Cuban
Missile Crisis Moment
*
Jaye Ramsey Sutter
· Sugar Land, TX ·
Manchurian
Candidate? Yes!
Kay
Ebeling My bet is that the Saudis are
behind this coup, working with Putin and who knows who else, Putin is too easy
to see and this hold coming down on us is just too - vice like. I think my
neighbors who drink all day on their Disability checks are about to have a rude
awakening and I will not applaud, bk I know the new dictatorship will find a
way to come after me soon too. I'm not a journalist anymore, just a
transcriber, living quietly behind a big tree. \
Jaye Ramsey Sutter Fascism.
The Saudi and the Russian ultra conservative Fascists. I can't sleep. .
(As our friendship developed, Jaye asked me how to get a TV show
produced, and we learned more about each other: )
Kay
Ebeling You need to write about ten scripts COMPLETELY and then
find an agent. That's how it's done.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Thank you
Kay
Ebeling Or marry a producer
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Damn. I should have!
Kay
Ebeling I turned down a guy whose "daddy" owned a bank
in Dallas, oh those mistakes we make
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter If we had it to do again
Kay
Ebeling Yeah but time moves forward
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Absolutely
Kay
Ebeling The dallas guy was a dweeb anyway . oh well
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter If they are from Dallas they are dweebs. I grew up
Irving
Kay Ebeling His parents DID NOT like me...
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Bad sign.
Kay Ebeling I was a girl from California come to town
as a yoga instructor, not dallas material
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Kay Ebeling it is a mean, narrow place.
Kay Ebeling Ranchers do not like vegetarians...
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(A
few days later, I visited Wikipedia and learned things about Jared Kushner that
provoked me to make this Facebook Post: )
Kay Ebeling He's
Russian. "His paternal grandparents, Rae and Joseph Kushner, were
Holocaust survivors who came to the U.S. in 1949 from Navahrudak, Belarus (then
USSR).[8][9]"
Jared Corey Kushner (born
January 10, 1981) is an American real estate investor and developer, newspaper
owner, and senior advisor to President Donald Trump.
Kay
Ebeling They could have been KGB in 1949... hmm, getting The Americans series DVDs from Library now
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Hmmm
*
Then Jaye Posted:
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter
· Sugar Land, TX ·
Jared Kushner. Data Analytics. Russians ran disinformation
campaign on Facebook.
Cate Bramble Cambridge
Analytica, Twitter, Facebook, Russian bots and American bots.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Everywhere a bot bot
Kay
Ebeling The Americans rewatch starting from Season One
Jaye Ramsey Sutter Read The People's
House. David Pepper.
Kay Ebeling Yes, professor
Jaye Ramsey Sutter There will be a test
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Like they get their thoughts in an email from
headquarters
(A few days later I posted: )
Kay
Ebeling The bots
are back, big time
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Yes they sure are!!!!
Kay Ebeling Prepare to argue about Hillary and Bill's
"murders" and chemtrails again
Denny Berfield Good bye Kay.........You're obviously no
friend of mine.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter And she hit Bill. And the Secret
Service. And vaccines
Kay Ebeling Wow, she even blocked me. I wanted to give
her a few more facts. Oh well.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter No loss.
Kay Ebeling When they realize you have a brain, they
block you so you can't see what else they are doing where.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Annoying isn't that.
Kay Ebeling Yes but if it's really a concerted effort
by Russia, scary
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Kay Ebeling I completely believe it is. I
think it is massive and insidious.
Kay Ebeling I think they even have people planted in
small towns. There were real weird letters to editor in Lancaster CA when I
lived there in 2013, same damn repetition of message, immediate response, one
letter after another, and the people lived in remote areas so...
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Reminds me of oddly that film Invasion of the Body
Snatchers. These people are either not real or have no idea about Russians or
they are Russians
Kay Ebeling Yeah there is something very weird about
it...
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Kay Ebeling Like they get their thoughts in an
email from headquarters
Kay Ebeling Yes
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter I have actually noticed this odd feeling
about marching orders talking points for 20 years. I hear it everywhere.
Kay Ebeling Since 1995 when they installed Fox News and
activated it
Kay Ebeling So actually it is Bill Clinton's fault as
he deregulated the FCC. lol
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Kay Ebeling Reagan. There was a Communications
Act but Rush Limbaugh was the first turn of the nutty screw. Fairness Doctrine
went under Reagan
Kay Ebeling I think when they saw with Fox News how
easy it was to manipulate us over airwaves, then they amped it up, especially
when they could do websites and say Anything and with enough money, be
Everywhere. They basically attacked us by taking advantage of our Freedom of
Speech
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Kay Ebeling Yes yes yes
Kay Ebeling yes, they also saw what Rush got away with,
that may have inspired this
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter We will bury you!!!
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Jaye
Ramsey Sutter So they admit Trump isn't well he resigns. Pence
pardons all of them.
Kay Ebeling #$%^&*()_+{}!!!
*
Classic work from Edward Bernays, the father
of public relations and political spin and the man who designed the ad campaign
that got the United States...
Kay Ebeling God, I got to get to my Job, dang
(More dialogue:)
Kay Ebeling What Trump did at NATO was why Putin orchestrated his
election. Just heard Malcolm Nance say that on AM Joy and it is what I had been
thinking. Then someone joked about Trump and no one laughed as this has stopped
being jokeable
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Sick. Our Congress and Executive has bee
compromised. It is never going to get prosecuted I fear
Kay
Ebeling i'm afraid it's too late to stop them. They pulled
this off and now we have to live with it. Scared
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Well are we going to be a Russian satellite?
Kay Ebeling Why did they do this? for what purpose?
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Kay Ebeling To end NATO. To dominate the world
of politics, oil, money. Putin is the wealthiest man in the world. More
fortunate than anyone else. He wants us to fail to respond when he creates
second class. Status for women and minorities.
Kay Ebeling How will that affect individual americans?
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Kay Ebeling Well no civil rights and
liberties. As long as Americans have big screens bad good and beer they won't
care.
Kay Ebeling Will Putin build affordable housing? (lol)
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter He will move on Western Europe while his dupe
brags about women and money. Trump will never respond. They control the whole
planet.
*
Our dialogue
continues:
Kay Ebeling Gaah at least in a dictatorship, they would have
arrested and shot Trump and his staff by now. WTF is wrong with our DOJ et al
that they can't find a way to stop this traitor from making one more policy? He
should just sit in the Oval Office and Tweet while we all "figure out
what's going on" hmm, maybe that is what is happening.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter The DOJ is working but the director is a Trump
appointee. The Attorney General.
Kay
Ebeling Yes, they have a Vice Like grip on our system, leaving
us to do nothing but blather on news shows
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter The system has a flaw. No internal method of
investigation
Kay
Ebeling You and I should write something. Maybe I should just
copy and paste our conversations on my blog to start. http://cityofangels25.blogspot.com
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter I am really very serious about writing with you.
Kay Ebeling I'll start by tracking down your comments
with me and putting them together, when I finish this tiny job I have to do
this AM. If you saved any of them send them to me
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter We can work back and forth.
Kay Ebeling We already are.
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter We can ask each other mighty questions!!!
*
The Russians won.
*
(More dialogue:)
Jaye
Ramsey Sutter Right now Putin's frat boy electioneering trick looks like
merely resentment toward Hillary. But the issue is about no crack down on
Syria, oil, and possible sanction lifting.
Tensions rose
between the United States and the Soviet Union after World War Two | THE MAKING
OF A NATION
LEARNINGENGLISH.VOANEWS.COM
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Jaye Ramsey Sutter The Russians won.
Kay Ebeling Can I quote you?
Jaye Ramsey
Sutter Please do.
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