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Monday, April 7, 2025

Anti Vietnam war marches did not end the war but did jump start movements we still have in USA today. I know; I was there

'We formed the counter culture because as long as the war continued, we could not participate in anything that had anything to do with the Establishment'

After Saturday's Hands Off rallies, I've seen a lot of opinions that protests are great but they will not solve the problem, and I have a unique experience to share. After numerous anti Vietnam war marches in the early sixties did nothing to bring home the troops, most activists 'dropped out' and formed a counter culture. It was 1975, more than a decade later, that the illegal Southeast Asia war finally ended. 

In 1967 I was on staff of the Peace and Freedom Party, so I had the assignment of manning phones in the L.A. office on June 23 while antiwar demonstrators poured into Century City. LBJ was holding a high priced fundraiser. Police were prepared for a thousand people, but ten thousand showed up; L.A. cops overreacted and used night sticks to club people in a nonviolent demonstration. You can read about it in the article linked below from L.A. Times Archive from that day.

My job as an office worker was answering phones and giving people directions to the demonstration. As local radio news started reporting that the protest had turned into a police riot, their words not ours, the three of us in the office on Western Avenue weren't sure what to say as people kept calling. I was nineteen years old.

Not long after that Century City riot, at another Massive anti Vietnam war march in D.C., someone SOMEONE infiltrated, someone showed up and handed out Bad LSD. I'm not proud to say that many demonstrators gleefully accepted a free psychedelic, so naïve were they. 

I was not there in D.C. but was someplace with other anti war activists, already feeling growing despair. when we heard about this crowd of peaceful demonstrators doing what people do when they take bad acid; and it was like a gruesome spirit-killer spread through all of us, a nationwide bad contact trip, like all at once we all realized this is awful, it was probably the CIA slipping bad drugs into a crowd, many concluded. What will they do to us next? A lot of people at that D.C. demonstration were taken away in ambulances and, if I remember right, there was NO NEWS COVERAGE other than that the demonstration in Washington that day was smaller than expected and ended early.

The anti Vietnam war protests pretty much ended after that.

Instead of more marching, we dropped out. 

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VVAW June 1967*


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We formed the counter culture because as long as the war continued, we could not participate in anything that had anything to do with the Establishment. We moved to communes in the country and became self sustaining, or tried to be.

Today lazy historians call us hippies but in truth we never used that word; we were Dropouts taking a passionate patriotic stand because we had become so discouraged and enraged that we could not stop an illegal war with protests. No one in power was listening.  

We started a counter culture that still exists today with organic grocery stores and local farms and, yeah, even medical marijuana now legal for everyone.

But it was not demonstrations that stopped the war.

It took USA LOSING HORRIBLY, military blunders fed by hubris, and the truth finally being reported in the Pentagon Papers etcetera that the war was illegal after all, to finally get USA out of Vietnam. 

USA left Vietnam in shame.

The dropouts were right. 

I hope this generation today has better results and is able to Find Something more effective than marching in the streets while illegal government acts go unabated. Although a new version of the counter culture dropouts might be really good for all of us today.

No. Too many people never dropped back in... 

Meanwhile, I think we should start a campaign to make everyone who watches Fox News feel foolish for doing so.  Or something. Marches ain't enough. I doubt there are a lot of people like me who were there in person in the sixties to relay personal stories like this.

You can see the photos of those sixties antiwar demonstrations in history books and Google Images. But there's no evidence that our efforts helped end the war. Sorry to say. At age 77, I can write a looooooong list of things about the United States that I wish were true but they aren’t, especially today.

 

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From the LA Times Archives: 1967 antiwar protest turns violent

By Scott Harrison

June 22, 2017 1 AM PT·

On June 23, 1967, President Lyndon Johnson arrived at Century City to deliver a speech at a Democratic Party fundraiser. Ten thousand anti-Vietnam War protesters also arrived.

In a June 23, 1997, Los Angeles Times article, staff writer Kenneth Reich reported:

The war at home over Vietnam had yet to explode in mid-1967. Five hundred American soldiers were dying every month, yet 40% of Americans still supported sending more men.

So 30 years ago tonight, when a coalition of 80 antiwar groups staged a march to the Century Plaza Hotel where President Lyndon B. Johnson was being honored, Los Angeles Police Department field commander John A. McAllister expected 1,000 or 2,000 protesters.

“When the mass of humanity came up Avenue of the Stars and over the hill, I was astounded,” he recalled. “Where did all those people come from? I asked myself.

Ten thousand marchers, by most estimates, were assembling across the street from the Century City hotel. Hundreds of nightstick-wielding police — using a parade permit and court order that restricted the marchers from stopping to demonstrate — forcibly dispersed them.

The bloody, panicked clash that ensued left an indelible mark on politics, protests and police relations. It marked a turning point for Los Angeles, a city not known for drawing demonstrators to marches in sizable numbers.

The significance of the evening lay not simply in the 51 people who were arrested and the scores injured when 500 of the 1,300 police on the scene pushed the demonstrators into, and then beyond, a vacant lot that is now the site of the ABC Entertainment Center.

Far more powerfully, the Century Plaza confrontation foreshadowed the explosive growth of the national antiwar movement and its inevitable confrontations with police. It shaped the movement’s rising militancy, particularly among the sizable number of middle-class protesters who expected to do nothing more than chant against Johnson outside the $1,000-a-plate Democratic Party fundraising dinner and were outraged by the LAPD’s hard-line tactics.

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https://www.latimes.com/visuals/photography/la-me-fw-archives-1967-anti-war-protest-turns-violent-20170620-story.html

 

Wikipedia

The 1967 Century City anti-Vietnam War march, also known as the 1967 Century City police riot,[1][2] was an anti-Vietnam War protest march which took place on June 23, 1967, in the Century City neighborhood of Los Angeles. Beginning with a demonstration against the war by an estimated 10,000 people, the march was soon halted by a contingent of Los Angeles Police (LAPD) officers who began assaulting the protesters, later claiming that they believed a mob was forming. In the end, 51 arrests were made and an unknown number of protesters were left injured.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Century_City_anti-Vietnam_War_march

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