Not able to edit this transcript so I'm just copy pasting it here, last night's very informative and kinda scary broadcast of Maddow. May be doing this more as you can still read the uncleaned transcript fine
Maddow: When Trump was President of the United States um his Secretary of the Interior got embroiled in a corruption Scandal and was referred to the US Department of Justice for potential criminal prosecution the last time Donald Trump was President his secretary of Transportation also got embroiled in a corruption Scandal and was referred to the Department of Justice for potential criminal prosecution the last time Donald Trump was President his Secretary of Labor got embroiled in a disgusting Scandal involving convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein a federal judge ruled that Trump's labor secretary had broken the law in that Scandal and so the labor secretary was referred to the office of professional responsibility at the justice department he ended up resigning in uh he ended up resigning in disgrace uh Donald Trump Secretary of Energy resigned in a corruption and ethic Scandal Donald Trump's head of the EPA resigned resed in a corruption and ethics Scandal Donald Trump's Health and Human Services secretary resigned in a corruption and ethics Scandal and I mean any one of these cases is like a a Teapot Dome sized Scandal right used to be if you had one cabinet official involved in a big ethics and or corruption Scandal that forced them out of the job or LED them to you know to being referred for for criminal prosecution even if he just had one that would be enough to Brand your whole presidency a disgraced and Scandal ridden mistake I mean Warren G Harding what is remembered about the Warren G Harding presidency I mean maybe you got three things you could remember a died in office B had an affair C Teapot Dome scandal corruption Scandal which resulted in a cabinet official being criminally charged I mean literally a century after that one Scandal involving one cabinet official that's basically all we remember about that guy's presidency because admit it when I just said Warren G Harding had an affair you went he did you didn't even know that we only remember that one Scandal because it led to a cabinet official getting in trouble one cabinet official getting in trouble in that kind of a corruption Scandal used to be enough to Mar your presidency and brand it alone for a century the first Donald Trump presidential term had so many cabinet officials forced out of office in disgrace and referred to the justice department to face criminal charges it's actually hard to remember them all and of course just one of the scandals of the Trump Administration is that despite an unprecedented number of cabinet officials being referred to the justice department for potential prosecution the supposedly independent department of justice under Donald Trump decided to bring charges to actually bring criminal charges against precisely none of them which is yet another of the Trump scandals from his first term but still I I will also mention that one of the the more memorable disasters ethical disasters along these lines from the first Trump term uh was his Secretary of Veterans Affairs and this one might be the most memorable because it happened right at the end I remember uh the headline about it on our show blog our the headline about it was December 10th 2020 this is after Trump lost reelection to Joe Biden but before the January 6th attack on Congress before the inauguration is December 10th 2020 and this was the headline yet another Trump cabinet secretary caught up in Scandal as Donald Trump's presidency comes to an ignominious end it's apparently not too late for one more cabinet controversy and that last one it was the the Secretary of Veterans Affairs and he too like so many of his colleagues in the Trump cabinet he was referred to the justice department for potential prosecution an investigation happened into claims that he had tried to discredit a veteran who said she had been sexually assaulted at a VA facility the VA Inspector General investigator those allegations found evidence that he seemed to have broken the law they referred him to doj to be prosecuted and of course the Trump justice department did not prosecute him they didn't prosecute any of these guys but one of the things that was really memorable about his scandal is that more than 20 different veterans groups rose up in outrage against that guy and these were desperate veterans groups the very different takes on the world everybody from the American Legion to Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America to the Veterans of Foreign Wars they all demanded that this Trump VA secretary resign or be fired even a really really conservative prot Trump veterans group just railed against this guy for that Scandal that he was embroiled it was just just a disaster mean it was a sign that even right up to the very bitter and ultimately very violent end of Trump's term in office things were just bad it was it was a bad presidential term it is not normal to have a half dozen members of the cabinet referred for Pro for potential criminal prosecution for for crimes they allegedly committed while they were serving in the cabinet it's not normal I mean that's the kind of thing that gets gets you listed repeatedly as the worst or among the worst ever presidents in US history when presidential historians and Scholars are surveyed about these things right this is why Trump is considered by experts in the field to be if not the worst then certainly one of the worst Presidents in the history of the United States I'm sorry Warren G Harding it just it just it just wasn't good today is Veterans Day happy veterans day Veterans Day is a celebratory day it's not to be confused with Memorial Day which is a very somber occasion Memorial Day we remember service members who gave their lives for our country Veterans Day is a happy day it is a celebration of our nation's veterans a time to say thank you and to just pay them some attention pay some attention to their service and their pride in their service basically as a country it's Veterans Day is a day to lift up our service members and our veterans and I therefore try not to do bummer veterans news on Veterans Day but today the news is that Donald Trump for his second presidential term has brought back that guy that last cabinet official with the last Scandal the guy who was referred for criminal prosecution right at the end of Trump's first term in office after a scandal-ridden tenure at the VA and this time Trump has brought that guy back to lead Trump transition efforts for the entire military for the entire defense department former VA secretary who was referred to the justice department for criminal prosecution at the end of his term to lead Trump's Pentagon transition efforts at a time when the United States of America is looking to the US military for assurances that they won't deploy against American civilians the way Trump has threatened he will order them to do the guy who's in charge with Staffing up the defense department leadership for the military making sure we've got all the best most ethical people there it's the guy who left office last time under Trump while his quote possible criminal conduct was under investigation by federal prosecutors Good Times there's been a a flurry of announcements and news about Trump Staffing up for his second term in the past 24 hours he really is bringing back that guy to choose the staff and Leadership of the US defense department uh it's just been reported by the New York Times that Florida Republican senator Marco Rubio uh who once memorably cast aspersions on the size of Donald Trump's genital in a presidential debate uh the New York Times is first to report that Senator Marco Rubio will be Donald Trump's choice for Secretary of State uh NBC News has actually just confirmed that news as well just in the last couple of moments it is on the front page uh of the New York Times as we speak Marco Rubio the expected Choice by Donald Trump to be his secretary of state uh we did learn for sure this evening that Trump is choosing for his National Security adviser another Republican member of Congress Congressman Mike Waltz of Florida after Congressman Waltz helped in the effort to try to overthrow the US government and keep Trump in power after he lost re-election in 2020 you might remember this was an amazing Florida story you might remember remember a very unusual apology being published by Congressman Walt's Hometown paper the Orlando Sentinel it was an apology to their readers for having endorsed Mike Waltz for reelection they apologized for having endorsed him after he tried to help Trump overthrow the government Mike Waltz has also distinguished himself by claiming that Trump was not responsible for January 6th he also has proposed that airport should be renamed Trump airport so clearly Congressman Mike Waltz has checked all the boxes that he needs to to be National Security adviser in a second Trump presidential term today we also learned that Tom homman will be in a job that Trump is apparently calling bordar remember when Republicans used to maintain with a straight face that it was a huge Scandal it was evidence of Communism to call anybody the Zar of anything in the US government well Tom homman will be Trump's bordar Tom homman is the architect of the policy um that had the US government deliberately and systematically taking little kids away from their parents and not giving them back he also spent this interregnum period while Trump's been out of office barnstorming the country bragging about how he's going to be the man who will mercilessly come after immigrants if and when Trump gets back into power is there a way to carry out Mass deportation without separating families of course there is families can be deported together they ain't seen sh yet wait till 2025 Trump comes back in January I'll be on his heals coming back and I will run the biggest deportation operations this country's ever seen I'm sick and tired hearing about the family separation and know I'm still being sued over that so come get me I don't give a sh right I don't give a what anybody says Trump comes back I come back [Applause] and I will run the biggest deportation operation this country's ever seen that last appearance there uh it's worth pointing out was Tom Holman again just appointed to be Trump's borders are for the second term that was him speaking this year at an event called if you look what happened under the attacks in 911 again all coming out of the same group of people that has done a very good job at hiding under the religion of Judaism they use Judaism as a cover for what they're really doing I'm sure they helped engineer the takedown of Hitler things that I see it just makes me shake my head after what they've programmed as people going to learn a lot about World War II and Hitler and the Nazis they're going to learn about Hitler was actually fighting the same people that we're trying to take down today people are people are going to learn and Hitler was fighting the same people that we're trying to take down today these people who are using Judaism as a cover for what they're really doing and look at 911 look at Judaism in 911 what this is the company that Tom homman has been keeping and the kinds of places where he's been making appearances over the past few years while Trump has been out of office that's where Tom home and has been promising mass deportations and camps to hold millions of people in this country now Trump today has announced that he is in fact bringing Tom homman into the government to head up Mass deportations Trump has also put in charge of policy planning for the transition the other architect of the family separation policy the policy of taking kids away from their families and not giving them back um the whole second term Trump plan to build mass camps in the United States for the military to hold millions of people inside our own borders that idea was developed by Steven Miller we learned today he will be Deputy Chief of policy in the Trump White House and according to the New York Times he will be in charge of all policy matters for the transition and we know what his priorities are he will be setting policy priorities for what the Trump Administration will do on day one so anybody who's telling you this is going to be at all moderate or normal in terms of what they're going to do that person is living on a nice planet that I would like to visit sometime but it is not our planet here any expectation that the most extreme things Trump talked about during the campaign and during his time out of office those were just talk and and normal people will come into his administration to do normal things that wishful thinking has not survived this first Monday since the election it is better to be clear about these things and to see them coming than to be denial or to be surprised by them when they come around it is what it is and to that end I think there's there's one other thing that is worth watching here worth putting up a a flag on this uh just in terms of thinking about you know not just policy choices not just Personnel choices but the preservation of our system of government because a president honestly can appoint pretty much anyone he wants any position right it's it is it is ridiculous that Trump and his first term in office had tons of cabinet officials who were involved in corruption scandals and even referred for criminal prosecution it is insane that he gave his son-in-law a White House job and then gave him a security clearance even though he failed the background check and then that same son-in-law walked away from the White House at the end with $2 billion from Saudi Arabia in his pocket it's all crazy but legally a president can put anyone he wants in the White House basically he is free to make terrible decisions along those lines and we have seen him do it before he is free to make the worst possible decisions about who to bring into the White House that's what the American people voted for congratulations that is what we will get also with the advice and consent of the Senate he can put anyone he wants into high positions in the government RIT large but on that point you you may have seen that Trump put out a statement online insisting that even though he's not in control yet even though the Democrats right now control the White House President Joe Biden is still president even though the Democrats right now have a majority in the Senate still Trump insisting this weekend that the Democrat should not be allowed to confirm anyone including any Biden appointed judges over these next two and a half months before Trump is actually sworn in as president and as an assertion that's nuts right you're not president now my guy and Republicans don't control the Senate right now so you and Republicans have no control you have no say over whether or not Biden and the Democrats choose to pass more you know confirmations before you you take power you don't you don't get a say in that you're not in power yet and to be clear after Biden won the presidential election in 2020 and Democrats won the Senate at the same time when the Republicans were on their way out of power and they knew it they had a gazillion confirmations they confirmed at least 32 people in that time period after the 2020 election everything from the surface trans Transportation board to the state department to the Federal Reserve to the doj to the Tennessee Valley Authority that they confirmed more than 30 people to jobs like that after Biden and the Democrats won the 2020 election but before Trump and the Republicans had left town and handed over power just in that time period the Republicans after the 2020 election but before Biden's inauguration republicans in Congress when they weren't helping Trump with his effort to overthrow the government by force and stay in power thanks to an angry armed mob attacking Congress uh when they weren't busy with that they were busy confirming Trump judges after the election after Trump lost election in 2020 but before Biden was sworn in Republicans in the Senate confirmed appeals court judges and district court judges tons of federal judges including Eileen Canon remember her who then proceeded in South Florida to throw out what otherwise looked like an open and shut criminal case about Trump illegally hoarding and mishandling classified documents which he hid in his bathroom among other places at maral Lago they confirmed tons of people after they lost the election in 2020 before the Democrats came into power at the end of January 2025 the idea that it would be somehow improper now for the Democrats to do the same thing for the Democrats to spend this next two and a half months confirming Biden nominees including judges say that there's something wrong with that or Republicans should stop that or the republ Republicans can stop that it's just an absurd suggestion Republicans confirmed people at great speed after they lost power in 2020 Democrats will do so presumably with equivalent speed right now after they lost this election the White House at least said they would do so today in a statement brushing Trump back telling him to back off his threats to try to stop these confirmations even before he is back in power here's here's the thing that I really want to point to here along with that absurd Bluster from Trump where he's trying to pretend he's already in power right telling Democrats to behave as if Trump's already president and Republicans already control the Senate which they don't aside from that which is pushing it big guy Trump also said one other thing about confirming people for positions in the government he said he wants the new Senate once they're sworn in in January to go into recess he wants them to recess to to leave town so that there's no Senate in session to confirm his nominees for the new Administration now on the surface level you might think this makes no sense Republicans are going to control the Senate when they're back in January it's not like Trump era Republicans are known for their independence and their willingness to Buck Trump's wishes right whoever Trump wants to appoint to his government no matter how crazy the Republicans in the Senate are going to approve everyone he asks for what do you think they're going to be offended right some like Tom homman oh he's been spending time with the Jews did 911 guy yeah you think that Republicans in the Senate are going to have a problem with that really I mean he's gonna have a republican controlled Senate they will confirm his his appointees no matter who they are so why is Trump now telling the Senate to go into recess to shut themselves down so they can't vote to confirm his appointees why is he doing that he's doing that so the Senate won't have to vote to confirm his appointees if the Senate isn't recess he can make recess appointments he can just install people in their positions without the Senate ever voting for them even though the Senate would definitely vote for them if they took a vote he's telling the United States Senate to shut itself down so he can operate independently and on his own even though they don't have any intention of stopping him he doesn't even want to give them a say I draw your attention to this because of all the discussion we have had as a country about Trump's you know dictator on day one promises his you know authoritarian values and promises and threats one of the things that hasn't been talked about very much is that we have a three-part system of government right co-equal branches of government the Judiciary the legislature and the executive we have a three-part system of government but what's the first rule of authoritarianism it's that there's one guy in charge right it's that there can be no other source of authority in the government other than the dear leader so if there has to be a congress well it certainly certainly shouldn't be a congress with any power it shouldn't be a Congress that has any role in governing and frankly same thing for the courts right this is something that I've been trying to raise Flags about in advance and so I can you know sometimes you can just feel something is getting traction or not getting traction like can tell this is not getting traction but I'm just going to keep saying it because this is what's coming we're already seeing it watch for moves early on to consolidate power for him not just within the executive branch which they are obviously doing right it's whole thing about firing all the civil servants firing all the carear government employees what's that about doing it's about consolidating the executive branch so there's no source of authority and no directive force in the executive branch at all other than the president himself that is about consolidating the power of the executive branch but also look to him to disempower to hollow out to neuter to sideline the other two branches of government the legislature meaning the Congress and the Judiciary Trump does not fear being constrained by this iteration of Congress right especially if the Republicans take the the house as well Trump doesn't fear being all that constrained by courts not with John Roberts as Chief Justice on this Supreme Court he does not fear being constrained by those parts of our government in anything he wants to do he's got them both on choke chains Frank Frankly but it is important to any would be authoritarian to not just have The Obedience of other portions of the government he needs to have their subservience to it must be that other portions of the government cannot matter only he can matter there can't be three coequal branches of government there can be one man who is the government and everything else is subservient to him and on this point amid everything else we are learning about this transition and oh boy there is more to learn about it we're going to talk about it this hour but amid everything else we are learning about this transition stick a flag in the fact that he is demanding that the US Senate shut itself down for him even though it's going to be controlled by Republicans there is no rational reason why he should not want the United States Senate to confirm his appointees unless he doesn't want the Senate to have that kind of job he doesn't want the senate or the Congress to have any job frankly let SE right the state that's me authoritarian governance means only one person matters and the rest of the government is just decoration we are watching for that from him about the courts we are already seeing it from him exceptions for instance in 2019 the pretty hard-right Republican senator from Wisconsin Ron Johnson he teamed up with a group of Democrats including Progressive Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren to co-sponsor a legitimately bipartisan bill that was called the presidential transition enhancement act the main purpose of it was to try to smooth out the process of transitioning from one president to the next but also to handle possible conflicts of interest while new president- elect is Staffing up among other things the bill required candidates to devise an Ethics plan quote an agreement that the eligible candidate will Implement and enforce an Ethics plan to guide the conduct of the transition that bipartisan sort of good government Reform Bill uh passed the Senate by unanimous consent not a single Senator opposed it uh the bill then passed the House of Representatives on a Voice vote again no opposition and in March of 2020 on super Tuesday in fact um Donald Trump signed it into law and despite what you're thinking which is what Donald Trump signed an Ethics law uh it wasn't that much of a surprise at the time right Republicans were involved in crafting the legislation it was a unanimous Passage through the the house and the Senate also Trump's own team uh said that there were things about the transition process that they did not like either which they thought this bill would fix so Trump signed it bipartisan reform of the presidential transition act inspired in part by the concerns of the Trump Team Crafted in part by prot Trump far-right members of Congress signed by Trump in 2020 well now it's transition time again it's time to put it all in place and so now naturally here's the lead from The New York Times quote president-elect Donald J Trump has not yet submitted a legally required ethics pledge stating he will avoid conflicts of interests and other ethical concerns while in office raising concerns that his refusal to do so will hamper the smooth transition to power and yes this is the very same ethics pledge from the bipartisan bill that Trump himself signed into law he's not signing it he's apparently ignoring all the requirements of that law including according to the New York Times blowing through the September 1st deadline to sign the transition agreement with the general Services Administration why is that important well that provides for a variety of services to be made available to the president El including $7 million in funding for the cost of the transition that provision also puts a quote $5,000 cap on individual donations to the transition and requires the public disclosure of all its donors by refusing to sign that agreement Trump effectively faces No Limit on contributions and does not need to name his donors publicly and here's the best part money raised by the transition is not regulated by any other government agency so not to bottom line this too bluntly but what this means is that Trump in the transition appears to be setting himself up to take unlimited funds from anywhere he doesn't have to disclose where it's from and he can use that money for any purpose with no oversight what could possibly go wrong would you like to pay a bribe to the president-elect do you know where the mail slot is that's marked transition office joining us now is Ken beninger a politics reporter for the New York Times he broke this story Mr benzinger I really appreciate you making time to be here thank you thank you Rachel I want to ask you about the ethics and potential corruption concerns here but I also want to ask you about whether this holdup means that there isn't a transition happening meaning that the the literal transition to a new government in which the president-elect and his team get into the agencies and start learning what's there and what needs to be done start seeing where their desks are and their filing cabinets none of that can happen in addition to some of these concerns about money right yeah that's right until the proper Agreements are signed and until the ethics plan is submitted uh the B Administration is legally prohibited from opening any of its doors opening its files even providing national security briefings to the Trump transition so it's like a total wall they can't give them anything the Biden Administration would be in violation of the law and they're not going to uh break that law at least so far far they said they haven't and what that means is that that the Trump transition has seen nothing they have the kind of things you normally have in a transition having people getting access to uh different uh agencies um sharing of files of getting people in so they can in the next 70 days prepare to take over the federal government is simply totally not happening and it's because of the Trump transition's refusal to sign the two agreements it was required to do in September and October and uh provide the ethics plan that conforms to federal law is it your sense and this may be a question that's unanswerable but is it your sense from your reporting that they intend to sign those pledges so that the transition can go ahead or is it your sense that they do not intend to sign those pledges and they in fact just don't intend to have a transition they just intend to show up um on the 20th 20th of January so one thing is is my sense and the other is what they say and what they they've been saying to me and others is that of course are going to sign all the necessary agreements and they're going to get it done they first told me that in early October that they were going to do it and of course it's now more than a month um since I had the conversation and they haven't signed anything people inside the federal government are telling me that they really have made no progress in terms of getting them to sign anything now the the uh fact of the matter is that the one agreement with the general Services Administration that you mentioned um probably could uh never get signed and it wouldn't hinder the transition as much as the other one which is crucial that's with the white house that's the one that sets the guidelines for for providing access to all the agencies which sets up the national security briefings that allows the real transition to happen and if that's not signed we're looking at a situation where Trump and all of his appointees and all the people that he wants to work in his new Administration would have to walk into you know 400 plus federal agencies completely cold on January 20th with no prior preparation people who follow these kind of things that worries them a lot because um they believe at the moment where any Administration or anytime the US government is it's most vulnerable is in these transition moments that if there was ever a risk of a foreign attack or foreign cyber Espionage or anything like that it's going to happen in those transition moments and we're looking at a situation where the Trump uh the new incoming Trump Administration would have zero preparation they'd be coming in completely cold the metaphor I think of as sort of like taking the final exam without ever having gone to class I'm trying not to use words like final even in metaphors these days um but it seems like an appropriate use um in this context Ken benzinger the purpose of Memorial was to memorialize and and tell the stories of the oppression and the Bloodshed of the Stalin era it was one of the most important repositories of information about the brutal past of the Soviet Union Memorial the organization won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2022 but stories about the Russian government doing bad things even doing bad things decades ago those are not stories that Vladimir Putin likes and of course one of the Hallmarks of authoritarian rule is that there can't be sources of information that compete with the dictator so three years ago Putin's government shut Memorial down uh they first labeled Memorial a foreign agent um which then was just a quick hop step and a jump to the Kremlin just ordering the group to be liquidated altogether another branch of Memorial focused on present day human rights they were accused of supporting terrorism they got shut down as well Putin's government also shut down the anti-corruption movement led by opposition leader Alexa Naval how did he shut down naval's organization by labeling it an extremist organization which is the same label the Russian government gives to Isis and Al-Qaeda one key signifier of authoritarian drift is leaders giving themselves wide powers to shut down Society groups and media outlets and the easiest way of course to do that is to declare some kind of Emergency the second easiest way to do that is to label groups you don't like as terrorists or as part of some nefarious outside influence well today with 70 days to go until Donald Trump is sworn in for a second term as president this is probably not a great time for the United States Congress to be considering a bill that would willingly hand over to the executive branch new wide latitude to unilaterally declare non-governmental organizations and media Outlets to be terroristic and yet that appears to be the plan in the House of Representatives Republican leaders tomorrow are expected to FastTrack a bill that would allow the Secretary of the Treasury whoever Trump appoints to that role um to essentially shut down any non-profit organization in the country that he or she declares to be a terrorist supporting organization the ACLU has joined more than 120 different human rights charitable and journalism organizations in urging lawmakers to vote against this bill I have to tell you back in April incredibly an earlier version of this bill got overwhelming support from almost every Republican and Democrat in the House of Representatives now with a trump Administration on the horizon this bill presumably looks very different to members of Congress who have their eyes open one Democrat who didn't opposed this bill the last time around now tells the intercept that he will likely vote against it this time again this is expected to be voted on in the house tomorrow even if the bill does pass the house there's no reason to expect that the Senate will take it up as long as the Senate is controlled by democrats Democrats obviously have a lot of other priorities in the last days before Trump takes office but if you're worried about Trump's stated desire to go after those he considers to be his enemies and you're looking for ways the legislative tracking a bill expected to bring it up tomorrow which would allow the Trump Administration to essentially shut down any nonprofit organization in the country by declaring that nonprofit to be a quote terrorist supporting organization joining us now is Ezra L from indivisible which is one of the groups trying to Marshall opposition to the bill Ezra as a former Congressional staffer a co-founder of the indivisible movement in 2016 you know indivisible from their successful organizing against the Trump Administration the first time around including their heroic and ultimately successful organizing to save Obamacare today with a second Trump term on the horizon Ezra was on Capitol Hill meeting with lawmakers he's actively involved in writing a new indivisible guide a new instruction manual for indivisuals uh specific brand of of practical Grassroots locally based opposition uh this time to the second Trump Administration um Ezra it's really nice to see you thanks very much for being here tonight great to talk Rachel so indivisible is one of the groups along with the ACLU and more than a hundred other civil society groups that are calling on Congress to reject this bill what seems important about it to you look I do not know why on the first day that Congress comes back into session after Donald Trump wins the election that you would have Democrats in Congress voting to give him more power to go after his enemies that is Bonkers to me and I think it's a real test to see if Democrats in this new Trump era are willing to fight back in terms of the indivisible approach to organizing um I have to we have to go back in time now Ezra and I want I want to ask you to sort of nutshell the indivisible philosophy to that kind of practical locally based Grassroots organizing that I described in the intro um how you developed it in in 2017 in the wake of trump being elected the first time and whether or not that that basic ethos still guides what you're doing today look Trump wants to think that he's all powerful and he wants you and everybody else to think he's all powerful but I I'm sorry Rachel for the time being at least we still live in a Federated National Democratic Republic and in that democratical Republic yes we've got Congress and we've got 50 state republics where there are 19,000 Villages and cities and towns and unincorporated areas where 335 million Americans live and vote for hundreds of thousands of elected officials every single drop of political power in this country flows from the people every single drop of it and it doesn't flow up to Donald Trump it flows through the local level and the state level and the national level but it's geographically based so the key Insight in the indivisible guide didn't come from us it came from years and years of organizing on the left and the right we saw the Tea Party do this what they recommended folks do was focus on their local area where they live get folks together organize them and then focus on your elected officials whether they're City elected officials County elected officials State elected officials or federal elected officials and in this moment where you've got Donald Trump and what looks like a republican Trifecta coming after us using a slim election margin to justify a deeply unpopular policy agenda in this moment what we have the power to do is to organize locally and tell our elected officials just say no fight back do not give this guy power that he does not have that's what we did in 2017 and 2018 to as you said to save Obamacare and also to build the largest midterm margins in the history of the Republic in 2018 and take back the house Ezra um obviously the election results um this time around didn't land with the same shock value as they did in 2016 uh after Trump had been elected once I think everybody implicitly knew that it could at least theoretically happen again but I wanted to ask what you're hearing from indivisible members um and what you're also hearing from people who may be interested in joining indivisible groups around the country you haven't put out any sort of official call I know for people to form new indivisible groups or to collectively start organizing in any way but I'm wondering what you're hearing just in this first week in terms of people's enthusiasm for doing the kind of work you're talking about yeah so Rachel it's it's been week and if folks will recall we put out the uh original indivisible guide it was in mid December and I've heard a lot of talk of oh gosh it's been a few hours it's been a few days where are the massive crowds where is the resistance here's what I've seen talking to folks around the country I joined Statewide indivisible groups in Georgia this weekend and they did a little poll they asked their members how are you feeling right now what are you going through and folks are feeling everything they're feeling angry they're feeling scared but the number one response from the Georgia indivisible group 70% determined we saw 11,000 of our members join us the day after the election and then we joined with move on and Working Families party and others to hold a nationwide call the next day 1,000 people joined we haven't yet put out a new guide it's going to be coming out on Wednesday but the number one thing we're going to be calling on folks to do is gathering your community so if you're interested in that go to indivisible.org come check it out and reach out to a few friends and family members and start talking about what you're going to do in this moment to fight back as Rel co-founder of indivisible online at indivisible.org uh thanks for being here and keeping us posted uh we'll be talking to you in an ongoing way in weeks ahead as I'm sure of it thank you so much looking forward Rachel
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