Monday, March 13, 2017

WikiLeaks a wholly owned subsidiary of Russian intelligence -Malcolm Nance (Transcript)

From AM Joy on MSNBC March 11, 2017
Fifth in a new series "The Malcolm Nance Transcripts" at City of Angels Blog. More to come tomorrow.

Quotes from Nance in this transcript:

This is the national security of the United States at stake here.  This is not partisan at all. 

Roger Stone seemed to have a lot of information ahead of time.  He needs to be- everyone needs to be subpoenaed.  WikiLeaks is no defender of transparency.  They are a wholly owned subsidiary of Russian intelligence.  And they have no problem releasing things in timed releases that benefit only two entities, Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

WikiLeaks right now- as far as I'm concerned it's a question of whether the Trump administration will go after them for stealing eight thousand seven hundred some U.S. intelligence documents.  I doubt it, don’t hold your breath. 

Guccifer 2.0 was not just this nebulous hacker entity, he was an operative of Russian intelligence, Russian military intelligence, G R U.  In fact, he was probably a team of operatives inside an information warfare management center

TRANSCRIPT:

Joy Reid: This week California representative Eric Swalwell connected the dots between Donald Trump, his associates, and Russia with this handy dandy chart illustrating some of the key players and how they're linked, all together.  Now if all the names and the web of Russia ties have left you a bit confused, let's start by focusing on the guy on the far right of that chart, Russian President Vladimir Putin, and ask yourself, what might he stand to gain from that web of connections to Donald Trump?
To answer that question, let's go back to what we believe to have been Putin’s goals as stated in the still unsubstantiated dossier compiled by former M-I Six agent Christopher Steele. 
Goal number one, the lifting of U.S. sanctions against Russia that were imposed over Russia’s invasion of Crimea.  One of names on that chart, Trump business associate Felix Sater** is one of the primary architects of a peace plan for Ukraine and Russia that could in theory have paved the way for Trump to get those sanctions lifted.
The would be peace plan was hand delivered to the office of ousted National Security Advisor Michael Flynn by longtime Trump lawyer Michael Cohen but the plan leaked to the New York Time last month and even Republicans have made it clear that they would stand in the way of lifting sanctions against Russia.
Then there's Putin’s long time mission to undermine the United States as a leader of western democracy and what better way to do that than to undermine two of the agencies that are best positioned to challenge Russia, namely the State Department and the CIA.  (background)

How close is Russia to getting what it wants out of Trump world  (background)
We non know per Daily Caller “Flynn paid ex-FBI agents, Behavior analysts, in Lobbying work for Turkish government.” (background on the now widely reported evidence that Trump was working for the nation of Turkey at the same time)
What do you make of this new debacle over Michael Flynn:

03:12
I am torn between thinking, yes, this is in fact a vast Russian conspiracy to influence or destabilize U.S. politics, on the one hand, and thinking that this is just the usual story of corruption greed and incompetence.  I mean it looks like Michael Flynn got out of government, he left the defense intelligence agency, and he immediately started trying  to cash out and he was not very scrupulous about who he’d take money from.  Yet another irony is apparently the company that was paying him to do all this, the company with ties to the Turkish government and in turn ultimately to Russia, apparently they want some of their money back because they don’t think Flynn’s firm did such a great job.  So I don't know.  I think I'm a little bit coming down when it comes to Flynn on the side of greed and incompetence, not conspiracy.
Joy: And he keeps getting fired.  Now apparently the Turks want to fire him too.  Now Malcolm, talk about the other entity that seems to keep swirling around Trump World and that is WikiLeaks.  They've released a cache of documents damaging U.S. intelligence- (background)
At what point do we begin to say, listen, Julian Assange is not some defender of freedom and transparency, he's an anti-U.S. anarchist, pro-Russia, whatever you want to call it?

04:33
Malcolm Nance:  Well I think we start back on July 23rd when both I and Paul Krugman, Krugman wrote an article in the New York Times calling WikiLeaks out and on the same day I made media statements calling them a Russian laundromat.  These- WikiLeaks is no defender of transparency.  They are a wholly owned subsidiary of Russian intelligence.  And they have no problem releasing things in timed releases that benefit only two entities, Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. There has never been a document released from Russian intelligence or anybody that's opposed to Julian Assange.
But now forty eight hours after Donald Trump makes an amazing stunning historic lie to the American public, where he says that a former President of the United States wiretapped him in the electoral campaign, which we all know is not true- WikiLeaks comes out and releases this giant tranche of documents showing how the CIA would have done it.
To tell you the truth I took a look at those documents, none of that stuff is extremely well known but a lot of that is still secret or it's marked secret, a lot of that stuff has been discussed at defense conferences, hacker conferences, all the times.  We just now know that the United States has the capability that we've always had.
But WikiLeaks right now as far as I'm concerned it's a question of whether the Trump administration will go after them for stealing eight thousand seven hundred some U.S. intelligence documents.  I doubt it, don’t hold your breath. 

Joy:  That is the crux of it, Russia has what it wants, it wants to undermine the EU, it would love to do to the CIA what was done to the KGB in the fall of the Soviet Union.  This isn’t about Donald Trump in the end, this is about Russia.  This is about a global destabilization effort. 

Joy: It seems like only the Democrats are paying attention to this, (Adam Schiff clip: We certainly want to get to the bottom of that dossier.)

08:20
Joy: What are the chances of getting Christopher Steele to testify, Rosa?
Rosa Brooks:  No idea but it's not impossible.  He's a former British operative.  (background) He does have some concept that this is not just about campaigns, it's about geopolitics and the world.  It could happen.

Joy:  Malcolm, Is Donald Trump being investigated? 
Should Congress subpoena Roger Stone, subpoena Paul Manafort, subpoena Carter Page, start subpoenaing some of these people who have all of these Russian connections around Donald Trump?

09:52
Malcolm Nance: Absolutely. And we're talking about the period of time from when the election campaign started to the election ended here.  And Roger Stone says that he had contact with Guccifer 2.0.  Guccifer 2.0 was not just this nebulous hacker entity, he was an operative of Russian intelligence, Russian military intelligence, G R U.  In fact, he was probably a team of operatives inside an information warfare management center, who were designed to go out and put this out and to look like this nebulous hacker.  And journalists and people like Roger Stone were coordinating. What other coordination did he have. 
Stone seemed to have a lot of information ahead of time. He got it from WikiLeaks and everywhere else.  This needs to be- everyone needs to be subpoenaed.  This is the national security of the United States that's at stake here, this is not partisan at all.  And anyone that doesn't want to protect this nation, we need to call them out on it.


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Watch Video at MSNBC here:

** Background on Felix Sater:

Trump business associate led double life as FBI informant — and ...

www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-sater-trump-20170223-story.html

Mar 2, 2017 - For much of that time, according to court records and U.S. officials, Sater also worked as a confidential informant for the FBI, and — he says — U.S. intelligence. ... There is no question that Sater led a double life during the years he worked with the Trump Organization.

Donald Trump And The Felon: Inside His Business Dealings With A ...

https://www.forbes.com/.../donald-trump-and-the-felon-inside-his-business-dealings-...

Oct 3, 2016 - Felix Sater is not a name that has come up much during the presidential campaign. That he has a colorful past is an understatement: The ...

The Nitty Gritty On Trump's Real Relationship With Russia - The Ring ...

https://trofire.com › Elections

Aug 1, 2016 - One of his business associates in Russia is a gentleman named Aras ... the managing director of which was one Russian-born Felix Sater ...

LINKS IN POST
Video on MSNBC:
http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/trump-advisers-accusations-of-unscrupulousness-895723075869

Rosa Brooks:
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/faculty/brooks-rosa.cfm
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